Krishnamurti - Talking with children in 1984

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The online streaming video clips of Jiddu Krishnamurti talking with the kids of the school.

Meditation | Concentration |

Krishnaji starts with the question

What would you like to talk about?

A student replies 'pride'

K. 'pride!', 'Are you proud?'

Student : Sometimes

J. Krishnamurti : Sometimes, what are you proud about?

Student : Achivement

Krishnaji : Achivement! What have you achieved? Al that ? man have achieved? all do you want to achieve ? Is that you want to talk about? Pride, achievement, success, money, possessions, power is that all you want? probably we all want! Don't fool yourself. Don't deceive yourself.

another Student :We all want these because,w e can't live without these things?

K : In these times one says we can't live without these things, how do you know?

'If we don't have these things, they don't listen to us, they does not give us respect'. the student replies.

K replies , 'So what do you want to do?'

The student is quick to respond, 'Sir, anything we can achieve in a prospect for living a happy life but not too much of respect.'

Krishnamurti laughs at the answer, 'You are quiet right', other students joins the laughter.

K : 'Not to much respect, but fairly comfortable life?! Student responds in affirmation. Krishnaji continues ' and a happy life, that is? Is that what you want? Krishnaji puts foreword a question.

'Yes' responds the child and has a little confused look on his face.

K : Then go after it.

Student : Sir, it is not easy unless, you try and achieve' the student face shows he finds it difficult to find words at this point.

Krishnaji's face turns towards other children, 'Any other questions?' he asks while the student in dialogue looks around a little puzzled.

What is a difference between meditation and concentration? a question comes from far off.

K : Do you really wan to talk about that? Or is it a game!? or you just found a question about, i amy be interested, is that it?

'No' comes a reply

'You really want to know, what is difference between meditation and concentration.

'So alright sir!' Krishnaji gets ready for the conversation, not caring for the physical discomfort his body might be giving due to old age. 'Will, you pay attention to what I am talking? What I am going to say?' again he puts a question.

Few students responds in affirmation with a 'Yes Sir'

'Don't say yes sir' responds with a smile 'and then forget.'

'Do you really want to talk about it? If you do, you are bringing very serious subject. What we think is concentration/

A student responds, Think about it deeply'

'What do you mean by that?' Krishnaji puts a question to that answer.

The kid responds and Krishnamurti finds it difficult to listen to the child's voice coming from distance. 'Come out here' he invites the child student to sit close and next to him, with love and a smile.

He continues, ' something you want to keep your mind on.' Right', as the child sits next to him. Krishnamurti gives a loving and appreciative glance at the child.

'Have you tried it?' the question comes out again. 'You want to look at those flowers' Krishnamurti points at flowers as the child's glance reach where pointed, 'or your book, or your teachers are saying, have you ever looked at it meditatively? this flowers, what teaching is telling you, listen, and concentrate on a book, have you?' he continues.

'Sometimes', responds the child who looks attentive.

'When does it happen?' K asks and the child seems looking for words to answer, Krishnamurti answers for him with a smile, 'When you like it.' A smile appears on the face of the child and affirms.

'Now when you like something, you put your attention, your thought, your energy, in observing it'. 'Right?' he asks. He continues, 'and that is generally called concentration, that is you concentrate on the book you are reading.' 'Right?', Krishnamurti asks as he puts his hands on the child. He continues, ' or, sometimes you are looking very carefully at those flowers, right?, or you what your friend or your teacher is telling you. Right?,

'Have you ever watched very carefully, concentrate on something for a long time?' He asks.

'Not for a second or two, but for a long time.' he clarifies. 'Have you done it?' Krishnamurti puts the question as the child is listening. The child responds with a no.

'Please, try it now' Krishnamurti responds with a smile 'Listen very carefully to what somebody is saying to you or look at those flowers for a long time. Right?' As the child looks at the flowers for few seconds, Krishnaji continue to point out other points , 'Not allow any other thought to come in, that what means concentration, focusing, giving all your attention to something that you are listening to or reading a book or watching something , can you do it? can you do it now? Krishnamurti asks.

The child answers in a yes, with a smile.

'When that takes place, what happens?' comes the question

'We understand' comes the reply from the child.

'You not only understand, but what is happening?' 'you think it out yourself, I am not going to tell you.'

'Where do you come from?' very gently Krishnamurti asks the child

'Banglore' comes the answer from the student.

'Now he wants to know, what is the difference between concentration and meditation?' Krishnamurti continues. and looks towards the student 'right, you don't the meaning of the word meditation, right? you don't know the word meditation, do you?' The kids nods that he does not.

'Nor do yo know the meaning of the word, concentration.'

'Now I know' student replies

'Now you know, because i pointed it out to you.' 'So concentration means, focusing your thought, energy, on something.'

A question comes from a distant, and Krishnamurti calls the small girl asking the same to come near and asks the same.

He listens to question from her and turns towards the boy.

'Listen to it carefully, Is it not difficult to concentrate on something without thoughts coming in?'